tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442584566219442310.post1714930388147095043..comments2024-03-21T05:26:37.436-04:00Comments on Hausdorff's Bible Blog: Rotten Core but Thick FruitHausdorffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01690401058367596952noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442584566219442310.post-73785493790472732042013-09-18T08:39:58.376-04:002013-09-18T08:39:58.376-04:00That's good to hear that some church leaders a...That's good to hear that some church leaders are trying to dispense with the toxic center of the christian message, and it is good when people can get something out of church and not let it completely take over their lives. I've had friends in this category, but it does shape their thinking in subtle ways. The message that there is something fundamentally wrong with you seems to seep it's way in.<br /><br />My parents were both in their early 60sHausdorffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690401058367596952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442584566219442310.post-2253259049294659132013-09-16T21:52:06.963-04:002013-09-16T21:52:06.963-04:00I think a lot of what is wrong with Christian chur...I think a lot of what is wrong with Christian churches these days has to do with whether the minister is kind and progressive enough to have tapped into what is rotten about the core...where it all originated from and how it has been interpreted down though the millenniums. A lot of folks I know find peace going to church and don't let it bother them the rest of the week. That method I don't have a problem with and if your Dad knows a lot of folks in his church, he will get a lot of support and hopefully has a mind of his own like you do to help him know what to accept and what to ignore. If you don't mind me asking, how old is he?Anna Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11945983971515869500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442584566219442310.post-47535604470224210602013-09-14T15:48:00.485-04:002013-09-14T15:48:00.485-04:00Which is why people should have hobbies all along,...Which is why people should have hobbies all along, hobbies that don't necessarily include or involve their significant others, so that in times you have to be alone (not necessarily the death or injury of one's mate), you have something to do and you don't go crazy.Cephushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11003137850809061013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442584566219442310.post-36390274495004097942013-09-14T00:40:18.580-04:002013-09-14T00:40:18.580-04:00Yeah, that's exactly what I was worried about,...Yeah, that's exactly what I was worried about, him spending all of his time by himself in the house and just kinda withering away. Fortunately it seems he's doing a pretty good job of putting himself out there and being with people. Plus a lot of people are keeping their eyes on him.<br /><br />I think a hobby would be great, but it does take some time to find something that interests him and to find a group of people and such. I tried throwing a few ideas out at him but nothing really stuck so far. Might just be too early.Hausdorffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690401058367596952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442584566219442310.post-15674387528424639322013-09-13T15:56:28.141-04:002013-09-13T15:56:28.141-04:00Now I wouldn't recommend church specifically, ...Now I wouldn't recommend church specifically, but your dad does need to get out into the world and reconnect with other people, that's extremely important after the death of a spouse. My grandmother, after my grandfather died, just locked herself up in her house and withered away, refusing to talk to anyone, refusing to make new friends, refusing to do anything. She died within 3 years of my grandfather. My mother, on the other hand, after my father died, got out, made new friends, spends a lot of time online talking to people and she's thriving a decade after my father's death. While a church is certainly a place to get socially active, you're right, there's a lot of poison that comes along with it. Maybe you ought to look into some secular activities for him to get involved in, revolving around hobbies or interests, and he might not need to get brain poison pumped into his head every Sunday.Cephushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11003137850809061013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442584566219442310.post-66691177627031604552013-09-13T11:02:45.984-04:002013-09-13T11:02:45.984-04:00Agreed, it is definitely pulling me in two directi...Agreed, it is definitely pulling me in two directions. I have no love for the church at all, and yet I think it will be good for him. I think part of it is whatever damage the church does has already been embedded into my dad. All of their toxic lessons have been preached to him his whole life. Anything that I find objectionable he's not going to be hearing for the first time (or for the 100th for that matter). So the downside doesn't seem like a problem, the upside is pretty good though.Hausdorffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690401058367596952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442584566219442310.post-80088064686228413762013-09-13T09:51:45.614-04:002013-09-13T09:51:45.614-04:00I think your dad will get a lot out of going to ch...I think your dad will get a lot out of going to church. That siad it would be nicer if there was just a community centre that catered for the same thing. As you say the core is rotten and for this reason it does not need affirmation. Christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01243905647317437724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442584566219442310.post-69230789425006349132013-09-13T09:49:59.359-04:002013-09-13T09:49:59.359-04:00Yeah, I completely agree. I'm not exactly sure...Yeah, I completely agree. I'm not exactly sure what form it would take, but I like the idea of a regular get-together that is non-specific. Getting together for some particular purpose (Godless gamers, knitting circle, whatever) is great, but just having everyone get together in one place is nice as well.Hausdorffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690401058367596952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5442584566219442310.post-70839730454962964392013-09-13T05:39:51.249-04:002013-09-13T05:39:51.249-04:00It sounds like your dad is finding ways to cope wi...It sounds like your dad is finding ways to cope with your mom's death, and that is good in and of itself. Of course your dad, even though he isn't an atheist, highlights the need for local atheist/humanist groups to offer the godless the same sort of services (sorry, couldn't help with the pun) as churches do.Andrew Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01495983897864604830noreply@blogger.com