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Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Revelation 2: Worship God or Die

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To the Church in Ephesus (v. 1-7)

The angel instructs John to write a letter to the angel of the church of Ephesus about what Jesus has to say to them. He focused on the stars and lampstands.

I find it strange that the letter starts off this way. Maybe it just wants to remind us that the words are from Jesus and not from John himself. The letter is also addressed to the angel of the church of Ephesus, not to the church leadership or the people themselves. I have no idea what the significance of this is (maybe it doesn't matter at all), but it seemed like it might be important.

Jesus likes that the Ephesians
  • toil with patient endurance
  • can't bear with evil people
  • have tested false apostles
  • have no grown weary
  • hate the works of the Nicolaitans
Jesus doesn't like that they
  • have abandoned love they had at first
  • have abandoned the works they did at first
He instructs them to remember from whey the have fallen and repent. He then says that anyone who can hear should listen to the spirit of the churches, and promises the tree of life to the one who conquers.

From Guzik's commentary: "The church today, like the Ephesian church then, must vigorously test those who claim to be messengers from God". Sounds like a good idea, I'd love to know how such tests would done.


If we first focus on the things that Jesus likes, it seems pretty good. Removing evil seems like a worthy goal. Patience is also good. If we assume that the Nicolaitans do evil works, then this all seems fine. 

The things Jesus doesn't like are harder to analyze as it is pretty vague, what does it mean that they have abandoned love? And what works did they abandon? My best guess at this message is that they are doing good getting rid of evil, but they are focused too much on it and completely ignoring the good things. If that is the case, the message here is to work against the bad things in life, but don't focus so much of your attention on it that you lose track of the good things. If this interpretation is correct, then I would argue that this message is good. I'm curious to see what the Christian commentaries have to say about this.

According to Guzik  the whole 'first love' thing is about a love for Jesus or God. As far as I can tell, he writes a lot but doesn't say much. And apparently the first works were spending time in his word, praying, getting together with other Christians, and telling people about Jesus. So the message of this chapter is basically that they are doing a good job attacking evil people, but not spending enough time worshiping God. I'm unimpressed.

If there are any Christians reading this, I hope it is clear that I am trying my best to put as good of a spin on this reading as I can. I'm trying to find a good message buried in here and give the writing the benefit of the doubt as much as I can. Here I tried to interpret this as nicely as possible and tried to find a message of balance between attacking enemies of god and loving your neighbors, but no, the message is to love God...awesome.

Oh yeah, there is that whole "tree of life to the one who conquers" thing. What is that about? I guess it is running on the assumption that the one who listens to God will be the conqueror and therefore the correct person will win and get the eternal life. But it does read as if you gain life for conquering, not for being good or following Jesus or something.

To the Church in Smyrna (v. 8-11)

To the angel in Smyrna, write the words "of the first and last, who died and came to life"

Okay, so the point is that he is focusing on different aspects of the vision from chapter 1 I guess.

I know you have dealt with much tribulation, and you are in poverty (although you are rich). And there are blasphemers around you who claim to be Jews but are really working for Satan. They are about to throw you in jail and you will be tested. Be faithful until death and you will receive the crown of life. The one who conquers will not be hurt by the second death.

This one pretty much reads all bad to me. It actually is a great example of what is wrong with pascal's wager. One of the premises of that particular apologetic is that there is no cost to accepting the faith, and potentially infinite reward. What are the believers being asked of here? To give up their life for Jesus. Hold fast even until death, don't worry you will get a good afterlife for it. Of course, if there is no afterlife you have just wasted the one life you get.

I don't know what the second death is supposed to mean.

To the Church in Pergamum (v. 12-17)

This time we are focusing on the two-edged sword coming out of Jesus' mouth. Jesus is happy that even though they dwell near Satan's throne, they hold fast to the name of Jesus. But some hold to the teachings of Balaam and Balak which is a stumbling block for my followers, who might be tricked into eating sacrificed food or engaging in sexual immorality. If you follow the teachings of the Nicolaitans, repent or I will war against you with the sword from my mouth.

So basically, the message is "follow me or I will kill you", great loving God you got there.

Guzik argues that the message here is "A difficult environment never justifies compromise. It is easy for a church in such difficulty to justify this compromise in the name of “we need all the help we can get.” But no church needs that kind of help." 

Ruling out compromise certainly seems like a dangerous thing to do, although I suppose there are certain issues that I wouldn't budge on. Still, there is a difference between "don't compromise with those people" and "don't compromise with those people, don't worry about it though, I'll kill them"

It ends by saying if you conquer then you will get some hidden manna, and a white stone with a new name written on it so that no one knows except the one who receives it.

What!?

Guzik explains the white stone: "In the ancient world, the use of a white stone had many associations. A white stone could be a ticket to a banquet, a sign of friendship, evidence of having been counted, or as a sign of acquittal in a court of law. Jesus may have any one of these meanings in mind, but at the very least we know that it has the assurance of blessing."

To the Church in Thyatira (v. 18-29)

This time we are focusing on the fire eyes and bronze feet of Jesus. Their love, faith, service and patient endurance are good.

love, service, patience, and endurance are applauded here which is good, but of course so is faith.

But the tolerate the woman Jezebel, who teaches my servants to practice sexual immorality and eat sacrificed food. I gave her a chance to repent, but she wouldn't, so I will throw her onto a sickbed, throw anyone who has sex with her into great tribulation unless they repent of her works, and I will strike her children dead.

So basically, sex is bad, awesome. Also, what is the deal with killing her children? What did they do wrong?

Apparently throwing her onto a sickbed probably means that he made her sick. (Guzik)

As to the striking her children dead, apparently in the other translation used by Guzik it says "I will kill her children with death", and so the gives the following quote “All men die, but all are not killed with death . . . Oh, it is a woeful thing to be killed with death.” (Trapp). This reads like a bad joke to me, am I missing something here, or did Guzik? 

I will give to each of you according to your works.

Unless your mom is a prostitute, then you will die.

If you don't know the ways of the devil and come out a conqueror I will give you authority over nations.



What do we Learn in Today's Reading?

--Evil--

Revelation 2:2 Avoid or expose evil

"...how you cannot bear with those who are evil, but have tested those who call themselves apostles and are not, and found them to be false."

--Faith--

Revelation 2:19 Faith is a virtue

--Love--

Revelation 2:19 Love is a virtue

--Obedience--

Revelation 2:5 Worship God or else

"But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first [for God]. Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent, and do the works you did at first [worshipping God]. If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent."

Revelation 2:10 Die for me and be rewarded

"Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and for ten days you will have tribulation. Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life."

--Patience and Endurance--

Revelation 2:2,3,19 Patience and endurance are virtues

--Sexuality--

Revelation 2:14,20-22 Sex is bad

"But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, so that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practice sexual immorality."

"But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her sexual immorality. Behold, I will throw her onto a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her works"

Revelation 2:23 God will kill you if your mother is a prostitute

"and I will strike her children dead..."

--Violence--

Revelation 2:15-16 Worship God or he will kill you

"So also you have some who hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans. Therefore repent. If not, I will come to you soon and war against them with the sword of my mouth."

Revelation 2:23 God will kill you if your mother is a prostitute

"and I will strike her children dead..."



Wednesday, November 28, 2012

James 5

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Warning to the Rich (v. 1-6)

Soon your wealth will rot away and be useless to use, you have chosen to amass your treasure here on earth where it will be useless soon. The rich gain their wealth by fraud and exploitation of their workers. You are responsible for the death of Jesus.

The bible clearly does not like rich people, funny then, that the catholic church has amassed so much wealth. Something I wanted to focus on a bit, I summarized that wealth will soon be worthless, I said this because verse 3 contains "You have laid up treasure in the last days". If you are really pushing for this to make some kind of sense, I imagine you would argue that this is talking about your own personal death, but I think it is pretty clear they are talking about the impending apocalypse.

The other problem here, is that all rich people are lumped into one big pile. They all have ill-gotten gains and apparently they are all responsible for the death of Jesus.

With the Catholic church in mind, the following statement from Guzik made me laugh. "[James] now naturally rebukes those most likely to live independently from God: the rich."

Patience in Suffering (v. 7-12)

Be patient and establish your hearts for the coming of the lord, which is at hand. Do not judge each other or you will be condemned. Be an example of suffering and patience like Job.

I like that patience is extolled here. Other than that, I'm not a fan of this passage. It is mentioned a second time that the apocalypse is right around the corner. It also says that suffering is a virtue, and looks toward Job as a role model. As far as I'm concerned, the story of Job is horrible, God lets the devil torture a guy to prove a point.

Apparently, the apocalypse prediction is not wrong, even though it has clearly failed, as according to Guzik 
"James said that in his day that the coming of the Lord is at hand. Was he wrong? No; we should not think as history since Jesus’ Ascension as moving towards a distant brink known as Jesus’ coming. Instead, it has run parallel to that brink for the last two thousand years or so, ready at any moment to head off it."
So apparently the end is near, and it has been for 2000 years. Great logic there buddy. Gill tries to get out of it in a different way, with a vague reference to the idea that for God "a thousand years are as one day". This seems like a pretty lame cop out to me, if correct it also seems that God is terrible at communicating with us, for if he meant that Jesus would return in thousands of years, he should have not told us it is right around the corner when our lifespan is so much shorter than that.

Do not swear any oath by heaven or earth.

As to the "don't swear an oath" thing, I don't get it.

According to Guzik the oath thing refers to making complicated deals with people, which are presumably complicated because they are deceptive. It says to use simple yes and no, and that is apparently what this is referring to. Being unfamiliar with the history, I'm fine deferring to him on this point. And given that, the spirit of this seems good, don't try to swindle people with complicated contracts.

The Prayer of Faith (v. 13-20)

If you are righteous and have faith your prayers have great power. The prayers of the church elders can heal, and the prayers of Elijah caused it to not rain for the and a half years.

This has two ideas in it that are terrible, first is the idea that prayer can do anything. Are we actually supposed to believe that Elijah made it stop raining for three and a half years? If not, at the very least the story is surely supposed to be telling us that prayers is extremely powerful. I definitely think the verse that says church elders can heal with prayer is supposed to be taken literally. Why is this such a bad thing? Because prayers don't seem to work. But the second bad thing about this section is that if your prayers don't work, it is your fault, you must not be righteous enough.

I didn't mention it, but in addition to having the elders pray, they are supposed to anoint the sick with oil. Guzik interprets this as "seeking the best medical attention possible". Are you kidding me? I mean, I'm glad they found a way around the silly rules in the book and are able to still go get proper care, but to say that is what the text means is a hell of a lot of spin.

He also says "Some have interpreted the idea behind save the sick as not specifically being healing, and raise him up as being a reference to ultimate resurrection." Another no lose situation for God. One more quote "The best approach in praying for the sick is to pray with humble confidence that they will be healed, unless God clearly and powerfully makes it clear that this is not His will."

It is quite telling when the Christians trying explain things hedge their bets immediately like this. "God can heal anything, unless he doesn't want to, so if it doesn't work it's not God's fault"

James finishes by stating that bringing back someone who wanders from the truth will "save his soul from death and cover a multitude of sins"

Are those the sins of the person saving or the person being saved? My first thought was that it was talking about the person saving, that saving someone will offset some of your own sins. But then I looked again and it is talking about saving his soul, is bringing him back covering his sins? I'm not sure.

Guzik agrees with my first thought, that the person helping the other person gets some sins forgiven for helping him.

For the overview post (If you think I should add or remove stuff from this list please let me know, I think it would make good conversation)

Good:

5:7-8 patience is a virtue

"Be patient, therefore, brothers...8 You also, be patient..."

Bad:

5:3,8 the end is near!

"...You have laid up treasure in the last days."

"...Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand."

5:4-6 All rich people are evil

"the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud... You have lived on the earth in luxury and in self-indulgence...You have condemned and murdered the righteous person..."

5:16 Prayer is powerful if you are righteous enough

"Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working."
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