Showing posts with label Worship. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Worship. Show all posts

Tuesday, January 15, 2013

Revelation 5: Jesus is Worthy of Worship

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Before I get started, I wanted to again mention that it is not always easy to tell if these things are supposed to be taken literally or figuratively. As I was reading today's passage, I was wondering if the description that certain things represent other things is a hint that we should look at these things figuratively. Example, v. 6 "with seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God"

The Scroll and the Lamb (v. 1-14)

John noticed that the guy on the throne (presumably God), is holding in his right hand a scroll which has writing on the front and the back and is sealed with seven seals.

I'm not sure what the scroll is supposed to represent, my best guess is either something about salvation, or something about the impending apocalypse.

Unless otherwise stated, Guzik will be my source today for the Christian perspective. The writing on the front and back indicate the scroll is unusual, as that is not normal, and therefore it can contain twice as much information as is normal. Apparently the seals consist of a string around the scroll sealed with wax. All seals must be opened before the scroll can be read. As to what the scroll contains, there is much discussion, which Guzik goes into detail about and why he thinks various ones are not correct. He says the best is that it is God's "final settlement of the affairs of the universe." It is mentioned that wills were sealed this way.

A strong angel loudly asked who is worthy to open the scroll and break the seals.

It's funny to think of a strong angel, I'm picturing a bodybuilder with wings.

No one on heaven, the earth, or under the earth was able to open the scroll or look into it.

'Under the earth' really caught my attention. Is this supposed to be people in hell? Why would people in hell even have the opportunity to come to the throne of God to attempt to open the scroll?

My question is unfortunately not answered here, but look at this quote from Guzik 
There is no answer to the strong angel’s challenge because the creation is utterly incapable of deciding or effecting its own destiny. Someone above the order of created must determine the course of history; only God can unfold this plan.
I find this mentality appalling. The idea that we are completely incapable of effecting our own destiny, that we  need God to unfold history according to his plan. This is what we give up when we buy into this religious worldview.

Because no one was able to open the scroll, John weeped loudly, and one of the elders told him to stop because "the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals"

Are these descriptions of Jesus?

Apparently yes, these are descriptions from Genesis, Isaiah, and Hosea

Near the throne there was a lamb standing, as though slain, with seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth.

Standing as though slain? Gotta be Jesus. I don't understand the horns or eyes.

Eyes suggest knowledge and wisdom, horns suggest power.

The lamb took the scroll and the creatures and elders worshiped the lamb. John looked around and saw that there were thousands around worshiping the lamb. All people and creatures in heaven, on earth, in the sea, and under the earth all fell down and worshiped he who sits on the throne and the lamb.

Yeah, I think the lamb is Jesus.

What did we learn today?

I don't know, I guess that we should worship Jesus.

Revelation 5:13 Jesus is worthy of worship

"And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, "To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!"

Monday, January 14, 2013

Revelation 4: God Deserves Worship

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Yesterday I wrote a post about how it is often important to interpret Revelations both literally and figuratively, the ideas apply for today's reading

The Throne in Heaven (v. 1-11)

John saw a door open in heaven, and the spirit teleported him to heaven to show him around. He saw a throne with a man on it who had the appearance of jasper and carnelian (reddish stones), around the throne was a rainbow that looked like an emerald.

Presumably this is Jesus on the throne. Does "like an emerald" mean it is green? If so, in what way is it a rainbow? Is it multiple shades of green? Or does like an emerald mean something completely different?

Around the throne of Jesus are 24 elders dressed in white, each with a throne of their own and each with a golden crown. From the throne came thunder and lightning. In front of the throne were 7 torches (which were the 7 spirits of God) as well as a sea of glass like crystal.

Around the throne were 4 living creatures, a lion, an ox, a creature with the face of a man, and an eagle in flight. Each has 6 wings, and eyes "all around and within". Day and night they never cease to worship the lord by saying "Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord God Almighty, who was and is and is to come!" And whenever the living creatures give glory to God, the 24 elders fall down before him and worship him. They cast their crowns before God and say the Jesus is worthy of their worship.

Is this heaven for those people? Having to constantly bow down and worship doesn't sound like paradise to me.

As to the literal versus figurative thing, I see nothing in this chapter that explicitly says that this is intended to be figurative. Given that, I think it is a possibility that John thought that this all really happened, and he is telling us all about it. I suppose it is possible that God really did pull him into heaven and show him these things, I would argue it is much more likely that he was reporting a dream that he thought really happened, or that he was drunk, stoned, or insane. 

But what if all of this stuff isn't meant to be taken literally? If it is all poetic, what does it really mean? I have absolutely no idea, I will leave that to the commentaries.

According to several different commentaries, the opening line of this chapter "after this" indicates that we are shifting perspective to things that are yet to come. So he is describing something that is yet to happen. This is curious to me as it is told in the past tense. Was he looking into the future, so that even though it is something he has seen (past tense) the story is really describing the future? Perhaps.

The throne that Jesus sits on is the seat of power, if we remove God from the throne we will invariably put ourselves on it. Guzik claims that atheism declares there is no throne, and humanism declares that man sits on the throne. I guess I would agree with him on the atheism thing, but I don't think any humanists think man sits on "a throne of power over the universe must answer to".

The jasper and carnelian are supposed to represent the glory of the empty tomb and the sacrifice of love.

The throne shows his unlimited power, the rainbow reminds us of his promise to noah and shows us that "God will always limit Himself by His own promises."

Apparently there is debate as to whether the 24 elders are supposed to represent glorified human beings or angelic being. Guzik's interpretation is that they are angelic.

The thunder and lightning are supposed to remind us of God at Mt. Sinai, we should be fearful of God.

The lamps are the holy spirit. This is remarkable because the spirit is not usually visible.

The water before the throne is reminiscent of the tabernacle.

The animals are Cheribum. There seems to be no agreement on what those things mean, the discussion is quite lengthy, I just skimmed it.

The giving of their crowns is a reference to lesser rulers giving their crowns to stronger rulers to show subservience.

The point of this entire chapter seems to be showing us that God is worthy of worship. If we cut through all the imagery and focus on what is is actually trying to tell us, that seems to be the message. And honestly, I think that is the central message of way too much of the bible. There is much more time spent telling us to worship God than there is telling us how to live better lives. 

What did we learn today?

--Worship--

Revelation 4:11 God is worthy of our worship

"Worthy are you, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power..."



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